Hawaii Related/Themed Mardi Gras Doubloons

Why should anyone care about Hawaii related/themed Mardi Gras doubloons?

M&R did!

2M-272, 2M-273, and 2M-274 are Hawaii related Mardi Gras doubloons from 1969. And 2M-167 is another Hawaii related Mardi Gras doubloon from 1980.

Ok..so what?

There is a gap of years that do not list any Mardi Gras doubloon in M&R!

From the years 1970 through 1979 and years 1981 through 1991 (year of publishing for the 2nd edition of M&R book) Hawaii related/themed Mardi Gras doubloons are missing.

Did they have any Hawaii related or themed floats during these years? Apparently yes and they are not listed in M&R.

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  • THN-CPE-01, 1968 Command Performance with Dancers (Hula, Ballet, others),  gold aluminum,  mintage undocumented, 39mm, 4 grams
  • THN-KOA-01, 1969 Native Dancers of the World (Dula Dancer on left), silver ox alloy, mintage undocumented, 39mm,  23 grams
  • THN-KOA-02, 1969 Native Dancers of the World (Hula Dancer on left), antique bronze, mintage undocumented, 39mm,  23 grams
  • THN-LMA-01, 1971 Hawaii with Hula dancer, gold aluminum,  mintage undocumented, 39mm, 9 grams
  • THN-LMA-02, 1971 Hawaii with Hula dancer, purple aluminum,  mintage undocumented, 39mm, 9 grams
  • THN-LMA-03, 1971 Hawaii with Hula dancer, green aluminum,  mintage undocumented, 39mm, 9 grams
  • THN-LMA-04, 1971 Hawaii with Hula dancer, green aluminum with gold aluminum,  mintage undocumented, 39mm, 9 grams
  • THN-AQU-01, 1975 Aloha Hawaii with state motto,  aluminum,  mintage undocumented, 39mm, 4 grams
  • THN-AQU-02, 1975 Aloha Hawaii with state motto, gold aluminum,  mintage undocumented, 39mm, 4 grams
  • THN-KNE-01, 1976 Hawaii 50th State Ali’i with Helmet, aluminum,  mintage undocumented, 39mm, 4 grams
  • THN-ISP-01, 1977 Island Splendors/Hula Dancer and Male on Drums, purple aluminum,  mintage undocumented, 39mm, 4 grams
  • THN-NCC-01, 1978 Aloha Hawaii with Diamond Head/Hula Dancer, gold aluminum,  mintage undocumented, 39mm, 4 grams
  • THN-JSC-01, 1980 Islands in the Sun/Hula Dancer,  aluminum,  mintage undocumented, 39mm, 4 grams
  • THN-TWC-01, 1985 Music Instruments being played with Hula dancer in celebration,  aluminum,  mintage undocumented, 39mm, 4 grams

The Hawaiian Flags of Confusion

I noticed an ad at an unnamed auction site, a seller stated that his Hawaii flag silver ingot was the real thing and all others were unscrupulously being offered for sale. Misinformation and incomplete knowledge led to this seller’s statement.

There are actually 6  known Hawaiian flag sterling silver ingots that were issued by a single manufacturer  prior to 1991. This is how to identify these ingots.

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The first group is identified by the reverse of the ingot. It has the words “HAWAII” (all capitalized), underneath are the words “The Aloha State” and “Flag Adopted: April 8, 1896”. These are proof sterling silver ingots as identified by the  M&R  catalog numbers:

  • 2SI-18 (aka full size)
  • 2SI-19 (aka mini)
  • Wait, M&R incorrectly stated the mintage figures (see below)…

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The second group is also identified by the reverse of the ingot. It has the words “THE HAWAIIAN FLAG” (all capitalized) with text “This flag flew over independent Hawaii from 1845 until the United States agreed to annex the territory August 12, 1898 Continues in use today as state flag.” These are proof sterling silver ingots as identified by the  M&R  catalog numbers:

  •  2SI-16 (aka full size)
  •  2SI-17  (aka mini)
  • Wait, M&R incorrectly stated the mintage figures (see below) and missed the 24KT gold on silver …

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If you review page 149 of M&R. You are going to still be confused due to the visual  grouping (Hawaii Flag and with its varieties listed). A more cleaner listing using the THN catalog number and to correct mintage totals and gold omission.

  • THN-FM-FOSI-01, The Aloha State Flag, sterling silver,  proof,  mintage 5,803
  • THN-FM-FOSI-02, The Aloha State Flag, sterling silver, mini ingot,  proof-like, mintage 3,576
  • THN-FM-FOAI-01, The Hawaiian Flag (set), sterling silver,  proof, mintage 4,892
  • THN-FM-FOAI-02, The Hawaiian Flag (individual sold), sterling silver,  proof, mintage unknown
  • THN-FM-FOAI-03, The Hawaiian Flag , 24KT gold on 0.500 silver,  proof, mintage 1,124
  • THN-FM-FOAI-04, The Hawaiian Flag ,  sterling silver,  mini ingot, proof-like, mintage 18,412

Source sets are to be identified in the book currently being written. The gold on 0.50 silver is a new find!

From the mintage total, I would be looking for the gold on 0.50 silver ingots as the key to complete the Hawaiian Flag ingot set.

New Find – Hawaiian Airlines Silver Ingot

Struck in 1979 in sterling silver. Unlisted in M&R (silver ingot section ). Mintage of only 1,777.  Source set is to be identified in the book currently being written by me.

This is the  companion ingot for the Aloha Airlines ingot.

  • THN-FM-AOWI-01, Hawaiian Airlines Tail Emblem ingot, sterling silver, 21 grams, proof

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New Finds (Plural) – Attack on Pearl Harbor

2M-211(bronze)  has three other companion medals.  The three are currently unlisted in M&R.

As the M&R did not provide a bronze mintage figure, a THN catalog number is assigned. And to keep the medal’s design elements in a cohesive group, the 13 mm are assigned consecutive THN catalog numbers.

As a note, the 13mm specimens exhibit the same design elements as in the larger medals, but the text has removed on the obverse (see picture). In addition, the text on the reverse of the 13mm  has been simplified, text matches the obverse of the 45 mm (but not the location), and is placed in the center.

  • THN-FM-HUS-06, Attack on Pearl Harbor, 45mm , sterling silver, proof,  mintage 10,000
  • THN-FM-HUS-07, Attack on Pearl Harbor, 45mm , bronze, proof,  mintage 24,836
  • THN-FM-HUS-08, Attack on Pearl Harbor, 45mm , platinum, proof,  mintage 1
  • THN-FM-HUS-09, Attack on Pearl Harbor, 13mm , 24KT gold, proof,  mintage 63
  • THN-FM-HUS-10, Attack on Pearl Harbor, 13mm , sterling silver, proof,  mintage 5,128

Image lacks the 24 KT 13mm medal and the platinum 45 mm (who owns it?)

More information is to be provided in my book (source of medals, minter, years of distribution, etc…).

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The 2M-164, 2M-163, and 2M-162 Trifecta

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Behold,  the trifecta of The Aloha State in Gold on Sterling Silver, Sterling Silver, and Bronze.

I’m in the process of writing a book with a chapter named “Alapi’i Collecting”. This is one of the dimensions. Source sets identified (to be revealed in my book.)

M&R got 2M-163 (39mm silver) mintage right, unfortunately it’s a proof and I have to assign it a THN catalog number. As for the bronze and gold on sterling silver mintages, the mintages are reversed, and I have to assign it a THN catalog number also.

The acquisition of the bronze medal was the hardest with a miniscule mintage of 155.

YES ! ONLY 155.

The 155 mintage should raise a red flag to collectors as this population rates a R-5 (on Fuld Rarity Scale estimated population between 76 thru 200).

  • THN-FM-SOU-01, Hawaii The Aloha State, 39mm, Gold on Sterling Silver, proof, mintage 1,303
  • THN-FM-SOU-02, Hawaii The Aloha State, 39mm, Sterling Silver, proof, mintage 866
  • THN-FM-SOU-03, Hawaii The Aloha State, 39mm, Bronze, proof,  mintage 155